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		<title>I Feel Weird&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://wakebird.com/2007/07/04/i-feel-weird/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 23:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[because I should be here right now.I really should be at home with my family, but there is something in me that is missing being up at Hume Lake Christian Camp with all the Jr High staff and students. I pray that God is blessing their time and transforming their lives in incredible ways for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>because I should be here right now.<br /><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/98288162@N00/485621154/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/180/485621154_d45df5ac69.jpg" width="350" height="250" alt="Hume Lake Docks" /></a><br />I really should be at home with my family, but there is something in me that is missing being up at Hume Lake Christian Camp with all the Jr High staff and students. I pray that God is blessing their time and transforming their lives in incredible ways for these next few days up at camp. Happy 4th of July Campers!!</p>
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		<title>Hume Lake Youth Pastors Trip</title>
		<link>http://wakebird.com/2007/05/05/hume-lake-youth-pastors-trip/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 23:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last week I spent Monday through Thursday up at Hume Lake with a bunch of our team. This was for the best youth ministry conference ever. They have great speakers, great worship, it costs about $140 for everything (conference, room, food), the food is good, and there are only about 150 people coming that get [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last week I spent Monday through Thursday up at Hume Lake with a bunch of our team. This was for the best <a href="http://www.humelake.org/content/af_youthpastors.php">youth ministry conference</a> ever. They have great speakers, great worship, it costs about $140 for everything (conference, room, food), the food is good, and there are only about 150 people coming that get to play on all the fun things that normally are made for 1,500 students. </p>
<p>I was supposed to be speaking this Sunday in Elevation. We were going to have a guest speaker from Iraq and I was just going to speak for about 10 minutes before him and 5 minutes after to keep us in the Crossing series, but he couldn&#8217;t get his visa approved. So I was supposed to speak the whole time and have to prepare from Hume Lake. On Tuesday morning I sat down with my laptop to work and saw the view below and really thought about everything going on at the conference and I just couldn&#8217;t bring myself to do it. So I threw in the towel and emailed P-Diddy (Pastor Dave) and asked if he could just do both services. He was totally willing and I could enjoy the rest of the trip.<br /><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/98288162@N00/485621154/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/180/485621154_d45df5ac69_m.jpg" width="240" height="160" alt="Hume Lake Docks" /></a><br />We went on a crazy Suzuki Samurai off-road tour one afternoon and this is the group after the dust-filled adventure was completed.<br /><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/98288162@N00/485621160/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/226/485621160_762c37cb62_m.jpg" width="240" height="160" alt="suzuki group" /></a><br />Then on the way home I had the best experience ever. I have always loved this meadow that is at the very beginning of Hume Lake Road just off Hwy 180. It is majestic and honestly reminds me of God. I have always wanted to frolic in the meadow and this time I had my chance. Peter Pizzuto took pictures of me out there. All the other pics were taken by him as well. Here they are. Bask in the majesty.<br /><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/98288162@N00/485621136/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/184/485621136_d6effea063_m.jpg" width="240" height="160" alt="Eric Meadow Running Away" /></a><br /><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/98288162@N00/485621150/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/167/485621150_93bf5b502d_m.jpg" width="240" height="160" alt="Eric Meadow Running Back" /></a><br /><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/98288162@N00/485621130/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/170/485621130_90c53a942e.jpg" width="333" height="500" alt="Eric Meadow Close" /></a></p>
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		<title>Crazy Weekend</title>
		<link>http://wakebird.com/2007/02/25/crazy-weekend/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So I left on Friday afternoon for our church&#8217;s Men&#8217;s Retreat. It was a Wild at Heart theme with a couple people from John Eldredge&#8217;s team coming to do the speaking &#8211; one of which is Bart Hansen who is a member/former elder of our church. It was pretty cool actually. I usually think the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I left on Friday afternoon for our church&#8217;s Men&#8217;s Retreat. It was a Wild at Heart theme with a couple people from John Eldredge&#8217;s team coming to do the speaking &#8211; one of which is Bart Hansen who is a member/former elder of our church. It was pretty cool actually. I usually think the Men&#8217;s Retreat is incredibly boring. The whole million video clip method of teaching definitely keeps you engaged. The big thing I don&#8217;t understand is why we have to have so many meetings. More fun, less meetings. It&#8217;s like the clip from Jerry Maguire that we watched. Fewer clients, less money. I say, &#8220;More fun, less meetings.&#8221; Am I going to get fired like Jerry? Probably not. We did play Ultimate Frisbee in about 4 inches of snow on a huge football field. Very tiring, but muy fun. </p>
<p>Some of us drove home on Saturday night because we had church responsibilities. I actually preached both services on Sunday. I like doing the Celebration service. It&#8217;s about twice as big as our Elevation service, but that&#8217;s not why I like it. It&#8217;s has less energy and enthusiasm as our Elevation service, but that&#8217;s not why I like it. I like it because the people love talking about it after the service. I was talking to these three adorable older ladies after the service who just wanted to chat. It was funny and kinda fun. They loved that I teased our Sr Pastor in my sermon about being a germa-phobe. </p>
<p>Then we had Hume Lake sign-ups and had hundreds of people outside the gym. We had a big &#8220;cookout&#8221; as my southern friends would call it. We raised about $1,500 for the Kenya trip with the BBQ as us SoCal people call it. Awesome.</p>
<p>I left the house at about 6:30am and got home at 2:45pm and I was on my feet the whole time after being on the Men&#8217;s Retreat. Needless to say, I am exhausted. It&#8217;s good to be with my family.</p>
<p>P.S. We leave for Maui next Saturday. I CAN&#8217;T WAIT!!!</p>
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		<title>Hume Lake Lawsuit</title>
		<link>http://wakebird.com/2007/01/28/hume-lake-lawsuit/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 01:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did you see this crazy article of a Joshua Institute kid suing Hume after being assaulted by his roommate who sounds a bit obsessed with demons, spiritual warfare, and swords?? This is sad. Hume is an awesome place and it&#8217;s a bummer if some crazy kid is hurting their reputation. It will be interesting to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you see this <a href="http://www.fresnobee.com/263/story/23949.html">crazy article</a> of a Joshua Institute kid suing Hume after being assaulted by his roommate who sounds a bit obsessed with demons, spiritual warfare, and swords?? This is sad. Hume is an awesome place and it&#8217;s a bummer if some crazy kid is hurting their reputation. It will be interesting to probe for info about this with our friends up there, but I&#8217;m sure they won&#8217;t give us much.</p>
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		<title>Things I&#8217;m Thinking About&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://wakebird.com/2007/01/17/things-im-thinking-about/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[- Who will my church pick for a consultant?- Am I really supposed to accept my sin and that will help?- How many people in Los Angeles will die from the nuclear bomb that exploded on 24 and will Jack Bauer and the rest of CTU get radiation diseases?- What will I post about on [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- Who will my church pick for a consultant?<br />- Am I really supposed to accept my sin and that will help?<br />- How many people in Los Angeles will die from the nuclear bomb that exploded on 24 and will Jack Bauer and the rest of CTU get radiation diseases?<br />- What will I post about on Sanctity of Life Day this Sunday?<br />- When am I going to get time to prepare my teaching for Elevation on Jan. 28?<br />- Why did the Chargers lose and why did they do so many stupid things in that game?<br />- Will my parents be able to watch Grace when we go to Hawaii because I already paid for the tickets and hotel?<br />- How many kids are going to turn in applications for Africa because 36 have taken applications and I&#8217;m worried we will have too many?<br />- A big decision I have to make at church that everyone has an opinion about how it should be handled.<br />- Do I have issues with submission and authority?<br />- Will the baby be a boy or a girl?<br />- Will we get our money back for the adoption?<br />- Why is living simply so hard?<br />- Lots of other church issues I can&#8217;t write in a public blog.<br />- Is Barack Obama the Anti-Christ?<br />- Why did Erin want me to say that her family is the best family ever?<br />- Why do I keep forgetting to ask her about her marathon?<br />- Is March 3rd (the day we leave for Maui) ever going to be here?<br />- Will I ever speak at a camp again?<br />- Am I going to drop my PhD program?<br />- Will Peyton Manning be able to finally beat the Patriots?<br />- When will the next U2 album come out?<br />- Where do babies come from?</p>
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		<title>Camping Ministry Evaluation</title>
		<link>http://wakebird.com/2007/01/10/camping-ministry-evaluation/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 05:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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Positives of Camping Ministry:Away from distractions and some temptationsFocus on God in natureTime for relational ministryAwesome camp staff who love students and care for the youth pastorsQuality time for worshipFun
Negatives of Camping Ministry:So much focus on &#8220;hooking up&#8221; by kidsAnnoying 19-year-old camp lead counselors that [...]]]></description>
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<p><span style="font-weight:bold;">Positives of Camping Ministry:</span><br />Away from distractions and some temptations<br />Focus on God in nature<br />Time for relational ministry<br />Awesome camp staff who love students and care for the youth pastors<br />Quality time for worship<br />Fun</p>
<p><span style="font-weight:bold;">Negatives of Camping Ministry:</span><br />So much focus on &#8220;hooking up&#8221; by kids<br />Annoying 19-year-old camp lead counselors that think they know more about youth ministry than the youth pastors (and sometimes act like they know your kids better too)<br />Kids get so tired that they are almost too moldable<br />Rec and program leaders create a mob mentality through cheers and competitions<br />Speakers and worship leaders push for an emotional response instead of allowing the Spirit to work in His time<br />Too much focus on decisions and not long-term commitment<br />Decisions don&#8217;t last down the hill</p>
<p>I think many of these negatives can be placed on youth ministries as well. I think the biggest thing in here is the push and shove for an emotional &#8220;altar-call&#8221; response. People need an opportunity to make decisions, but sometimes these camp altar calls are all about feeding the ego of the speaker and aren&#8217;t really even about the kid as much as the mass of kids coming forward.</p>
<p>If any of my friends from Alpine, Ponderosa Pines, Forest Home, or Hume Lake read this I am sorry if this feels like an attack. As I process this, it is less an attack on camping ministry in general as it is a challenge to certain speakers, worship leaders, and camp programmers &#8211; including myself.</p>
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		<title>Back from Camp</title>
		<link>http://wakebird.com/2007/01/07/back-from-camp/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 22:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well I just got back from the weekend speaking at Alpine for their Jr High Winter Camp Week 1. Overall, it was a good time. The speaking seemed to go well. It was fun playing in the snow with Grace and hanging out with Bea. The band were some cool guys from all over Orange [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I just got back from the weekend speaking at Alpine for their Jr High Winter Camp Week 1. Overall, it was a good time. The speaking seemed to go well. It was fun playing in the snow with Grace and hanging out with Bea. The band were some cool guys from all over Orange County, but the leader was from First Baptist HB/FV where Ashdown used to work and Steve Gioelli and Bill Staffierri work now. They were pretty good &#8211; maybe forcing some dancing and stuff that was cool, but sometimes I just want to be able to worship without some dude telling me what to do all the time.</p>
<p>As for the whole camp as manipulation or brainwashing thing, I feel pretty proud of what we were able to accomplish up there. We didn&#8217;t do the whole &#8220;come forward and cry because I have emotionally charged you up to respond to Jesus&#8221; thing. I gave kids an opportunity to pray about believing in Jesus and wanting forgiveness for the sin in their lives. This was just quietly and privately in their minds and hearts &#8211; not out loud, no standing up, no coming forward. Then I immediately dismissed them in a discipline of silence to their cabin time where they were to talk with their leader about any decisions they made. A few leaders came up to me at the end of camp today and thanked me for not doing the whole emotional thing. They really appreciated it. I think that sometimes the altar call is more for the speaker than for the student. It feels good to see a bunch of people come forward. But the scary part is that you start to think that it&#8217;s because of you somehow &#8211; instead of from the Holy Spirit. </p>
<p>So yes, I do think that camp can be brainwashing and manipulation, but I also think it doesn&#8217;t have to be. More thoughts to come&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Up to Alpine</title>
		<link>http://wakebird.com/2007/01/05/up-to-alpine/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>wakebird</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m headed up to Alpine this afternoon and I hope to do some observing for my thoughts on &#8220;camp as manipulation&#8221; post. Maybe this could be a dissertation topic. I&#8217;m sure it would ruffle some feathers. I don&#8217;t suggest this stuff to be mean or hurtful to people in camping ministry. I&#8217;m as guilty of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m headed up to Alpine this afternoon and I hope to do some observing for my thoughts on &#8220;camp as manipulation&#8221; post. Maybe this could be a dissertation topic. I&#8217;m sure it would ruffle some feathers. I don&#8217;t suggest this stuff to be mean or hurtful to people in camping ministry. I&#8217;m as guilty of this as the next guy. It&#8217;s just when someone suggested the concept to me, it really got me thinking and I couldn&#8217;t shake it.</p>
<p>I might have my first day in a few weeks without a blog post tomorrow while I am up there. Maybe I can get to a computer. But if not, I will see you all on Sunday afternoon.</p>
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		<title>Camps and Tonight</title>
		<link>http://wakebird.com/2007/01/02/camps-and-tonight/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 05:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We just watched the movie Invincible and I loved it. I love football movies and true stories are always cool. This was a nice bit of entertainment for the evening. Then we played a little MarioKart on the GameCube I &#8220;bought Bea&#8221; for Christmas. You like that? 
I spent the morning working on talks for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We just watched the movie Invincible and I loved it. I love football movies and true stories are always cool. This was a nice bit of entertainment for the evening. Then we played a little MarioKart on the GameCube I &#8220;bought Bea&#8221; for Christmas. You like that? </p>
<p>I spent the morning working on talks for a camp I&#8217;m speaking at this weekend. It&#8217;s a smaller camp called <a href="http://www.alpine-cc.org">Alpine</a> up near Lake Arrowhead. I love doing camps for Junior Highers. They are the best. They are usually totally into it and enjoy getting to know you as the speaker. Just praying that God will use the time. Camps always feel like it takes a lot of time to give to people you might never meet again. I&#8217;m glad that Bea and Grace are coming with me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also been thinking a lot about how camps are potential brainwashing. I will probably post on that more after the weekend. I&#8217;m not saying that all camps just brainwash kids, but it&#8217;s a concern I have. Get them tired, lots of hype, mob crowd influence, and then ask for a commitment&#8230;that&#8217;s what I mean. More to come.</p>
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